I'm thinking of using Vallejo, but I don't know whether to use Model Color or Game Color. Model Color on the other hand is a staple of top tier painters. No Memes. There are some standout colours that work really well or look really good though, such as Game Colour/Air Charred Brown for a rich brown or VMA Hull Red to shade your reds. the colors are brighter and more vibrant, you can mix any color needed with only a few tubes of paint. Acrylic Artist Color, Acrylic Studio, Inks, Gouaches, Liquid Water Color, Varnishes and Mediums. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. I'd suggest getting a starter set of artist acrylic paints. So I imagine I can put all these paints to good use (assuming I get around to actually doing it). lichtecht, alterungsbeständig, hochpigmentiert 17 ml pro Fläschchen Tropfenzähler für genaues Dosieren und gegen Austrocknung! Sorry if this is posted elsewhere, I did search and check the sidebar but didn't find anything. The 74.xxx Primer range is also included here If you want advice on "essential" paints to cherry pick I can work up a list of that too from multiple Vallejo ranges as I have VGC, VMC, VGA, VMA and Liquid Gold (and GW, Army Painter, P3 and some others too). The Game color extra opaque line are relabeled Model Color paints. They're both fine. They also generally have less pigment saturation, though that also comes down to the color. So if you're looking for a baseline to flesh out, Model Color is where you want to start. It may also be six years old. Reaper was the other one I was looking at. The Vallejo Game Color range are in a matt and opaque, water-based formula, especially designed for brush-on use. Way too much, in fact. I want to start painting miniatures - haven't done it in a long time (~15 years) so I'm starting over supply-wise. Sorry for getting 2 big posts (so far) to read through ; p. edit: Here's a shot of my paint collection from a while ago, it's increased since then but this gives a rough idea. There are written guides but youtube is where it's at for painting tutorials. Right now I'm trying to decide between Game Color and Model Color. The oranges are awful also. Primarily, how accurate is this color conversion chart? If anyone has any thoughts or resources I'd appreciate it. Farbpalette. Which range you choose does largely boil down to what colours you need. Die Farben sind sowohl für die Bemalung von Plastik- als auch Metalloberflächen geeignet. Vallejo paints are good, they are solid colors, and there is no issue if you want to use those. Girl Painting on youtube is great for brush work, Buy Painted is great for airbrush work, and Awesome Paint Job / other WGC is great for both, off the to p of my head. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the minipainting community. Can you still get a bright/eye-candy paintjob out of, say, a space marine with model colors? But I use both lines and it comes down to what colors you like because there are different hues between them. Vallejo Model Air. Game Color flesh tones are fine but nothing special IMO, they're a little gummy and weird to work with though. They're good for the price per volume and range of colours but definitely on the glossy side so I still prefer to use Vallejo Airs where possible, but they have their uses. A place to share ideas and techniques for painting and converting miniatures. Vallejo Game Color 72.131 Rust Effect Vallejo Effektfarbe zur Darstellung von Rost. Pigmentierung. I'll probably end up going Game Color for the less neutral colors (reds, yellows, blues, etc) as I hear they are more vibrant but I don't mind having some Game Color and some Model Color. (With the exception of their Air metallic paints, which are lovely but a bit limited in selection.). They're great to work with and colour match the non-air versions, with the main downside being they're not as good to drybrush with if you do that much. VGC dries to a slightly more durable coat. Do you prefer it to Vallejo? Vallejo ist der Spezialist für Acrylfarben zur Nutzung in den Bereichen Modellbau, Hobby und Miniaturen. These are nothing like the Vallejo Model & Game Color Metallics, nor are they like the Vallejo Model Air or Game Air. The main issue with Game Color is that they are incredibly inconsistent, not only in how they look dried, but in terms of the coverage of the paint, the actual consistency of each individual liquid, it's absurd really.. Their paints, washes, mediums, pigments and more are all comparable in price and volume to other ranges, while proving almost unbeatable in quality. They're also much more forgiving if you're not experienced with thinning your paints (with your 15 year break) as they come pre-thinned for airbrush use and can usually be used straight form the bottle with good results, although you'll often want to thin them a little still. Auf dieser Seite findest du den Markt von Vallejo model color vs game color getestet und in dem Zuge die markantesten Infos angeschaut. The yellow paints, are horrible, the only good yellow from the line that I know of is Gold Yellow, it's great for NMM gold, but the rest of the yellows? Please observe proper reddiquette, have fun and keep your brushes damp. I read somewhere that Model Colors are more bland/realistic rather than bright and fantasy-esque. The greens are good and bad, jade green, scurvy green, goblin green, sick green, are great, so is turqoise, but their dark green is basically just a bottle of matte medium, it takes me a dozen coats to cover well with dark green and because of the thick gummy consistency of that particular paint, it doesn't thin down very well. I'd recommend Vallejo Model Air (VMA) and Vallejo Game Air (VGA) over the non-air ranges even if you don't use an airbrush. Flesh tones are okay, I would say Scale75 has the best flesh colors from what I've used, either that or Vallejo Panzer Aces flesh tones. In general I tend to avoid them but when I do need to buy a pot the first thing I do is transfer it into a dropper bottle. I use some paints from it, primarily the very bold colors not available in any other range. I'm probably going to stick with plain old brush for now but might look in to airbrush in the future. Deshalb ordnen wir die entsprechend große Anzahl von Eigenarten in das Ergebniss mit ein. Each color has been meticulously developed in collaboration with model-painters who specialize in fantasy figures and dioramas. Is HD or regular master series the way to go? 2. But either way, it is a hugely inconsistent paint line in terms of how it dries as well as how it handles, a lot of the colors are very thick but very transparent and thinning them down to a nice flowing consistency makes them basically useless because of how poorly they cover, others are fine like the browns and reds. Unter "Game Color" führt Vallejo im Prinzip die Farbpalette von GW (Citadel), leicht umbenannt. The Model Color range is very extensive and includes basic shades as well as many references developed by our experts for use on historical figures as well as the specific colors employed for all types of vehicles, planes and military models. I threw mine in a box and stopped using them, that's how bad they are, they cover like torn tissue paper. The range on the left is Minitaire, an airbrush line from Badger. Right now I'm trying to decide between Game Color and Model Color. Game color tends to be a bit brighter and have more variation in tones, model color is generally more restrained and realistic. Mark nude minis as NSFW. BROWSE VALLEJO GAME COLOR CONVERSION CHARTS. 4 ranges of washes and VGA has been added to it since then along with extra colours here and there. For the Vallejo colors listed here, how accurate is this chart, and if you had to choose one vs the other which would you choose and why? The reds are decent, gory red is a nice dark red, bloody red is basically orange though. The biggest difference between model color and game color is simply the range of colors they offer. Don't you find the pigment in artist's acrylics is too coarse for minis? Vallejo Model Color vs Game Color. They have a very good metallic selection, much better than Vallejo who IMO doesn't have very good metallics. I've decided (for various reasons) to go with Vallejo paints. I also find them to be more available than mini specific paints. I'm especially interested in the various flesh tones: Dead Flesh vs Deck Tan, Dwarf Flesh vs Dark Rose, Bronze Flesh vs Dark Flesh, Filthy Brown vs Medium Flesh, etc. The differences basically between the Vallejo lines, basically it boils down to consistency, Model Color is for the most part a matte paint unless the bottle says it's gloss, MC is also pretty consistent in how they feel, they come out of the bottle thick but thin down really well. What are the pros and cons of each set and which one is overall better? No real need to mess about with alcohol-based metals now. A place to share ideas and techniques for painting and converting miniatures. Press J to jump to the feed. Just pick the colors you want / need from either line. Model Color ist weit höher pigmentiert als Game Color, heißt, du mußt sowohl mehr/stärker schütteln als auch mehr verdünnen. The two ranges are a technically a bit different, like viscosity etc. My plan for now was probably to buy all (or at least most) of the model color paints on one of these conversion charts. I'm just now getting into painting. The durability you mention is a non issue - the only durability "problem" with Vallejo is their airbrush primers which need to sit for 24 hours before painting over them, and even then they don't have the "bite" of rattle can primers - but it's perfectly fine if you paint over them and then varnish, just not to play with them only primed as it will eventually start chipping off with use. It has a different medium than Model Color, some colors have severe separation issues, and others are infamous for having poor coverage. Citadel paints are generally very good but as you've seen they can be expensive. Game Color is disliked by many. Tube paints also last forever. If you want to go "all in" - which if you really like the hobby I'd recommend, pick up one or more sets of paint (and I'd highly recommend an airbrush setup for ~$150). Most of the paints are a semi-gloss when they dry, some are gloss, some are matte. I'm planning to start my painting with minis from Descent, Imperial Assault, War of the Ring, and Space Hulk. Game Color has added varnish to it which makes it more durable and certain colors appear more satin. Vallejo color charts for models and miniatures like Model Color, Model Air, Model Wash, etc and vallejo hobby tools for hobby and miniatures It's also a showcase of the stuff you're really proud of. Vallejo model color vs game color - Der TOP-Favorit . If you're open to being sold on airbrushing - they really make painting much more fun in a number of ways, and speed up a lot of boring tasks like base coating and highlighting, I can dig up an old post on that too. I've decided (for various reasons) to go with Vallejo paints. The Game ranges are vibrant sci-fi and fantasy colours, the Model colours are more muted/realistic colours. Model Color Matt and opaque acrylic colors with highest pigment concentration in a water-based formula, especially developed for brush-on application. For example I'd recommend Army painter and secret weapon washes over Vallejo, a couple GW basecoats such as red and yellow over Vallejo opaques and so on. And the DakkaDakka Painting and Modeling forum is really helpful for advice and constructive criticism, though I haven't been there for a while. Press J to jump to the feed. Then there's Vallejo skin tones, Vallejo Opaques, Vallejo Game/Model Colours, Vallejo Airs, washes/fluorescents/inks, and odds and ends. I'm actually not concerned about matching GW colors, but I don't want to buy both Pale Flesh and Light Flesh if they really are the same color. They are more expensive, have smaller amount of paint, and the pot is the worst. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'm just now getting into painting. Game color is a terrible line of paints and I think most people would tell you the same. Vallejo Game Color - Farben bei modellbau universe kaufen Sie online bei modellbau universe.de, dem Online-Shop für Plastikmodellbau It has 67 paints, but buying them individually ($2.45) is $164. The browns are pretty good for the most part, again they're good for gold NMM work or leather etc. I'm trying to get a few starter sets so I can have a wide variety of choices. The Game Color starter set contains several of those colors and is not a good value. 1. I will definitely keep that in mind for metallics! The Dakka conversion chart is the one I've always used and it's pretty damn good. I've got a few tubes that are 20 years old and still usable. Citadels are OK but the bottles are terrible. I'm no where near as critical of Vallejo Game Colour (VGC) as /u/redpiano was - they have their flaws which largely boil down to "some need to be stirred rather than just shaken", but are great other than that. I'm trying to get a few starter sets so I can have a wide variety of choices. I have moon yellow and lemon yellow both if you'd like a comparison picture or something. Wo genau der Unterschied liegt, hab ich nie herausgefunden, aber die besseren Maler die ich kenne und die Vallejo benutzen, nehmen alle Model Color. I want to start painting miniatures - haven't done it in a long time (~15 years) so I'm starting over supply-wise. I'm thinking of using Vallejo, but I don't know whether to use Model Color or Game Color. Once you figure out whether you'll be doing this quite a bit more, it would make sense to get specific colors for your minis and the various types are compatible with each other in any case. VMA metallics are generally really well regarded, especially the silvers, as being the best that aren't alcohol based like the Vallejo Liquid Gold range which are harder to work with but do provide a beautiful metallic. Those are totally different and are more like your traditional metallic paints. For example MM has the Vallejo Model Color Range Box Set for $220. Panzer Aces are all great, Model Air is a fantastic paint line also, they have really good metallics except for VMA gold IMO. Do you feel like there really isn't a noticeable difference in color between a VMC and VGC paint on the same line of the Dakka conversion chart? What I'm more interested in is the color choices. There is pretty much no good reason to select Citadel paints over other hobby brands. Metal Color is a range of waterbased metallic colors, specially designed for airbrush techniques. It's also a showcase of the stuff you're really proud of. Thanks for the response. I've read in a few places that Model Color lays down better but is perhaps less durable (but that issue is alleviated with a varnish). I stick to Vallejo except for some of the Citadel washes and technical paints. edit 2: If you want some painting tutorial resources I can dig some up. No Memes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Range of fine arts products for the professional artist. Please observe proper reddiquette, have fun and keep your brushes damp. I've seen lots of article/videos where people compare Vallejo to other brands, but not much in comparison between the different Vallejo lines, especially with colors that are "equivalent". I figured if they are listed there they are used somewhat often. When it comes to acrylics, they are spread across multiple ranges. Is there a reason to have both? It is worth noting that this stuff is intended to be airbrush paint, and the primary target audience for Vallejo here, are people making model aircraft. Model Color numbers are presented in 71.xxx with a further 3 digit number indicating their position within the Vallejo Model Colr Display Rack. There are a number of VGC, VMC, VMA and VGA sets to choose from iirc so if you like that idea I'll happily look through and recommend some. Each color has been meticulously developed in collaboration with model-painters who specialize in fantasy figures and dioramas. Vallejo are not only one of the most popular brands when it comes to miniature painting, they also boast one of the largest ranges. but the biggest different is the colors they offer. Thank you! Reaper and Army Painter are a couple more ranges to consider if you are looking. Soweit ich weiß, gab es früher auch nur die Model Color Reihe. The chart here is presented in display rack order, allowing you to more easily find the color you are looking for. These will be used on gaming minis - think games like Blood Rage, Zombicide, Kingdom Death, Reaper Bones, Specter Ops, Wrath of Kings, etc. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I wanted citadel initially, and I have a low number of those, but looking at the prices, it just isn't really feasible. I wanted citadel initially, and I have a low number of those, but looking at the prices, it just isn't really feasible. Mark nude minis as NSFW. If you're trying to buy paint on a budget, I'd pick out the paints you want based on painting tutorials for the schemes you want - Vallejo is probably even more common online than GW tutorials for most games I think, but the colour match chart should help there if not. Vallejo offers four different water-based chemical formulas in these colors lines, each one created for a particular segment of the hobby market, but all compatible with one another. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the minipainting community. IT does include some brushes, varnishes, and medium, but I think I can pick up those for less than the ~$60 difference. Game Color supposedly uses a different type of pigment I believe? Sorry if this is posted elsewhere, I did search and check the sidebar but didn't find anything. Vallejo Model Color vs Game Color. I looked in to some of the bigger sets but it looks like it's cheaper to just buy them all individually. Video about how to use Metal Color range by José Brito. The Vallejo Polyurethane Primer is awesome, and the new metal colour range is equally awesome. Die Relevanz des Vergleihs liegt bei unser Team im Vordergrund. Outside of that the difference between them is really minimal so you should be fine using paint from either range as long as you like the color. Is this true? There are some great colors in the line, but most of them are horrible. I have a ton of things I could paint. 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